Christian cognitive dissonance
This was posted by an Atheist friend of mine and of course I had to respond. It wound around several directions as is typical of discussions with Atheists.
Samuel September 9, 2015 •
Christians are constantly fighting a battle against what is generally termed ‘cognitive dissonance,’ where the world that they see and experience is at odds with their cherished beliefs. So, they have devised a system of excuses in a desperate attempt to preserve their beliefs. Here are some examples:
-It wasn’t really slavery
-That’s just the Old Testament
-You’re reading it out of context
-It wasn’t really wine, just grape juice
-People send themselves to Hell
-A day could mean a billion years to God
-God works in mysterious ways
-You cannot test God
-If he revealed himself, there would be no room for faith
-My prayer went unanswered, so it was the will of God
-The Devil did it
-Scientists conspire against godly beliefs
-That’s not what’s really being said
-The Bible treats women as being equal to men
-You have to know how to interpret the Bible
-He was talking about the generation of the end times
-That’s not a contradiction, just two sides of the story
-You just have to have faith
It is unlikely that a true religion developed by a perfect deity would require so many excuses for followers to maintain their belief.
Larry Marshall Those are all human excuses designed mainly by those who can’t understand the possibility of a perfect world or desire to strive for it.
• July 14 at 3:09pm
Samuel Those are excuses used by Christians to defend their faulty book.
July 14 at 10:58pm
Larry Marshall Right, those who can not defend their faith- generally by the religious individuals not Christians. You’ve got to remember that their is a difference between Christians and religions and Organized Religions.
Yesterday at 8:36am
Samuel Larry isn’t a sheep. He’s a goat at the left hand of God.
July 14 at 11:04pm
July 14 at 11:17pm
Larry Marshall A mythical creature created by a cultist organization- I like the images I saw on line. But still not applicable to Christians maybe some organized religions I know of.
Yesterday at 8:40am
Samuel Jesus is a mythical creature created by a cultist organization.
Yesterday at 9:24am
Larry Marshall Oh well, it is amazing how people can continue to believe in their own facts despite the massive amount of evidence that disagrees with them. But that is what free speech is all about At this point, we need a psychological explanation of the Atheist rather than a logical explanation of the universe.
Yesterday at 2:33pm
Samuel Larry Marshall, the “massive amount of evidence” disagrees with Christianity. You’re an official nut!
Larry Marshall Show me where Christianity has interfered with science development.
Charles References please
Larry Marshall Would you like book titles, scientific journal articles, debate transcripts or what in relation to what in particular. Please break down the” massive amount of evidence “into something of particular interest to you so it will be easier to deal with.
Charles The fact that the letter j did not exist in any system of writing prior to the 15th century. Any copys of the new testament prior to the 15th century. I guess thats it for starters
Larry Marshall Good ,very good. I haven’t had that one asked in some time. I won’t mention “did you look it up in Wikipedia” because their entry does their best to make it confusing. First you must understand that English especially Olde English has not been the worlds leading language except for the past 300 years or so. Greek and Latin and some of Latin’s derivatives were more commonly used 2000 years ago. So let’s see if we can shed some light on this:
From the online version of Encyclopedia Britannica
The letter J is relatively recent, and originated as a variant of the letter I. Why that happens is a little complicated, and requires unpacking some assumptions in the question.
In the original languages (Latin, Greek, Hebrew) which provide us with the names Jesus, Joseph, Justinian, etc., the sound which we write as J was pronounced as the English letter Y. (Just to make things confusing for English speakers, the phonetic symbol for this sound is [ j ].) In Latin, the letter for this was I/i, in Greek it was Ι/ι (iota), and in Hebrew it was י (yod). Thus, the Greek spelling for “Jesus” was Ιησους, pronounced something like “Yeh-SOOS”, and the Latin likewise was Iesus.
Subsequently, in the Latin alphabet the letter J was developed as a variant of I, and this distinction was later used to distinguish the consonantal “y” sound [ j ] from the vocalic “i” sound [ i ]. However, at about the same time there was a sound change in many of the languages of Western Europe, such that the “y” sound changed into a “j” sound . So we have it that in English, the letter J now represents a consonant which is not obviously similar to the vowel [ i ], despite the fact that they descend from the same letter and the same sound. (English also has many sounds spelled with J which come from native Germanic roots.)
You can see this history worked out differently in the spelling systems of German and many of the Slavic languages of Eastern Europe, where the letter J spells the “y” sound [ j ], and the letter Y, if used at all, is primarily used as a vowel. Also in Spanish Jesus is pronounced “Yeh-SOOS” and is as common of a name as the English John. Next…..
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